May 6, 2008 4:50 PM PDT

Spyware Horror Story: Stowaway pirate

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Submitted by Peter; Cordoba, Argentina

I'm a writer, currently living in Argentina. My native (and working) language is English. Obviously, word processing software is a vital tool for me. I bought my last computer, a beefed-up HP 2200, in Cordoba, Argentina. Unfortunately, I had to accept the Windows XP Pro OS, in Spanish, that the vendors supplied it with. I specified that MS Office should be included and it was; alas, in Spanish. When I contacted the MS people in Redmond, Wash., about a download in English--there are complicated restrictions about getting CDs through the local customs--I was informed that I had to work through Microsoft Argentina as "...our software distributed to that country is substantially different to the U.S...". End of story? Not even close.

It turns out that the vendor's Office 2003 installation on my computer was pirated! I paid for a license, but in my own foolishness, I didn't check the package for documentation. These people have since gone out of business and their firm exists with new owners.

I worked for a year with the computer offline, then a year ago I connected to an ADSL link and because I run some networked applications, it is on 24-7. About six months into this, Office started to go wrong. At first it froze and I had to close it with the Task Manager. Then the whole system became progressively less stable. Scans with Norton, Ad-Aware, and other security software came back clean. That's as far as my geek ability can get me, so I finally had to wipe the drives. My budget doesn't allow for an effective backup, so I must have been able to recover about half my files.

Now I'm running a "clean" XP, the vendor's original, have downloaded and am about to install Ubuntu (with dual boot,) and am collecting a lot of very effective open-source and or free software through Source Forge, CNET, and the open community in general. I'm finding not only some really impressive stuff, but also a huge number of very intelligent and willing volunteers out there to give help whenever I'm about to hit the panic button. For a Net newbie nitwit like me, that's often.

CNET Download.com editor

Editor's response

Buying technological goods in foreign countries can be a challenge, and I speak from personal experience. The ease of acquisition and quality of choice tend to follow global economic currents, and our old friends--supply and demand--return to explain how in cooler markets, local buyers wind up paying princely sums for smaller selection. In truth, gradations of service and quality span continents, countries, and cities. Just take San Francisco, where consumers buy goods in retail shops, thrift stores, and in informal economies, such as Craigslist. The major difference I see is that locals are better suited to recognize, and therefore navigate, the risk.

If we had the power to give Peter a do-over, he would likely put as much research into the source of his purchase as he would into the laptop model. There are three immediate things one in his shoes could do when deciding where to buy big-ticket items:

1. Call the manufacturer. It may be a pain to calculate time zone differences, buy a calling card, and wade through automated menus, but in Peter's case, asking about certified distributors in his area could have made a huge difference.

2. Harvest recommendations. You're not the only foreign national wherever you are. After checking with local friends about where they make their purchases, interview the other expats (there are often social groups), and go case the suggested stores for prices, selection, warranties, and evidence of good management.

3. Take advantage of the long tail. Spend a few hours with a friends' computer or at an Internet cafe to search for advice or ratings online. See if there's a larger distributor that will ship to you from a major city, or check local versions of Amazon.com or similar online stores for their stock and shipping rates. International shipping charges are often substantial, but if you've got close friends and family with access to a virtual or brick-and-mortar store you know and trust, buy yourself a power converter (locally) and reimburse your gophers for all other costs.

With regard to the software itself, Microsoft Office isn't the only productivity suite around, and Microsoft Word isn't the sole word processor. AbiWord and Dark Room are two freeware applications more than capable of handling compositions. AbiWord is multilanguage, with an interface reminiscent of Microsoft Word and WordPerfect, where Dark Room keeps the background full screen and inky to focus the author on their text. OpenOffice.org is a well-lauded, open-source productivity suite that includes spreadsheet, presentation, and drawing programs with its Microsoft-like word processor.

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by hardheidi May 6, 2008 5:51 PM PDT
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by Motyoj May 6, 2008 6:01 PM PDT
You did the right thing by getting Ubuntu. Microsoft's software is a real mess that's expensive, sluggish, bloated, and a pain in the you know what. Once you get the hang of Linux, you'll never go back to M$.
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by Ord3s May 6, 2008 10:38 PM PDT
Reading the Horrorstories prove more and more, how many people are incompetent of using a computer, or have a computer knowledge, besides of clicking on icons and launching software. I dont even see the the connection between this article and spyware. Is she implanting that the pirated office 03 came with spyware? Might be, but doenst really make sense as it was running fine in the beginning. The spyware would have already been active than. And not just a year later. "I run some networked applications, it is on 24-7. About six months into this, Office started to go wrong" -- This is properly the way u got infected. And when i think about your knowledge, i think you mostly running download, torrent, limewire etc (network applictions) 24/7. This for 6 months with and low level it knowledge. No wonder. What happen did happen. Or perhaps your system is clean. And you just jamed it up to 10mb free space, fragmented registry, etc. Why bother about the spanish Win. When it really is a legal copy, i wouldnt mind just downloading an english Win, and use my original legal key for instal. Going to linux is a good choice. But you might have some problems in the beginning. Specially with the command line. conclusion: to many n00bs using computers
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by jedimasterlego May 7, 2008 3:36 AM PDT
as a U.S.-citizen born in (and currently living overseas in) Panama (the COUNTRY, where the Panama-Canal is, NOT 'Panama City Florida'), I can understand, AND RELATE. I absolutely DESPISE the fact that, here in Panama, technological products, technology-related products, electronics, etc, are EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE than in the States (example: you think $299.00 flat for Bose Quiet-Comfort-2 headphones and $349.00 flat for Bose Quiet-Comfort-3 headphones is "expensive"? Try $349.99 before-adding-a-5%-sales-tax-to-the-price for Bose Quiet-Comfort-2 headphones, and $379.99 before-adding-a-5%-sales-tax-to-the-price for Bose Quiet-Comfort-3 headphones, AND IMAGINE NOT EVEN HAVING THE SENNHEISER PX450 HEADPHONES (as if "they don't exist")!!! want another example? try paying $1599.97 before-adding-a-5%-sales-tax-to-the-price for this laptop (which I happened to buy at a local electronics store here in Panama called Panafoto, the website of it is www.panafoto.com by the way, in January 2004; yes I know, up there in the States, technology was WAY FARTHER AHEAD than the specs I'm about to state): Pentium 4 processor 2.8GHz, 256MB of RAM, 32MB "integrated" video memory ("Intel" graphics), 40GB hard-drive, "B"-standard integrated wireless-network-card, DVD-ROM/CD-RW "combo" drive, parallel port, video port, 56k modem, 10/100 integrated-network-port, touchpad, spanish keyboard, 15" 'standard-aspect-display" (4:3 ratio; yeah, NOT WIDESCREEN) 'XGA'-resolution LCD-screen. Yeah I know, crappy specs (pardon my bad-language please). Not to mention, that, (ironically enough), despite the fact that there are TONS of needs and uses for English computers, English software, etc, down here in Panama (and now that there are TONS of American, European, and/or English-speaking retirees coming down to Panama to retire), the companies down here (or whoever is actually IN CHARGE of importing stuff to Panama; yeah, EVERYTHING has to be imported. Just imagine the State of Hawaii, except in a MUCH MUCH FAR WORSE situation. Yeah that's it; JUST IMAGINE IT BEING WORSE THAN IN HAWAII) STILL don't bring software, computers, electronics, NOT EVEN CARS WITH THE RESPECTFUL INSTRUCTION-MANUALS, IN ENGLISH. Hey, I believe that, if you're an American, or a English person, or Scottish, or French, or Australian, or whatever it is you are, you should have a CHOICE in what language you want your software to be. What's more: I remember hearing AGES AGO that the United States, due to the amount of Latin and/or Spanish-speaking people in the country (and yes, I heard this information from friends of mine in the States who I chat with online), U.S. schools were starting to teach Spanish AS A MAIN LANGUAGE also. Do you find that in Panama? HELL NO. Not to mention, you want to know what types of Internet are available here in Panama for consumers?: Cable-Modem, and "ADSL" (some weird cooky version of "DSL"); take your pick. Those are the only two types of Internet-access available here. There is a company here in Panama now starting to "market" 'WiMax' Internet-service here in Panama, but, you want to know the speeds?: $99.99 before-adding-a-5%-sales-tax-to-the-price for the base-unit, plus prepaid-cards in the following costs and speeds: $10.00 before-adding-a-5%-sales-tax-to-the-price for 256K speed for 7 days; $20.00 before-adding-a-5%-sales-tax-to-the-price for 128K speed for 30 days; $30.00 before-adding-a-5%-sales-tax-to-the-price for 256K speed for 30 days. DO YOU EVEN "CALL" THOSE PATHETIC SPEEDS "WIMAX"??!! I THOUGHT "WIMAX" WAS SUPPOSED TO BE "4G", AND THEREFORE, "4G"-TYPE SPEEDS, NOT something we've been having since JUST AFTER "dialup" was invented!!!! :-O (www.wipet.com is the website, in case anyone is interested in checking it out). Not to mention, there are companies down here who have EVEN MORE of a "monopoly" than what Microsoft has up there in the States. Take Panama's "#1" (only because they've had a "exclusive-telecommunications-company"-type contract made directly with the president of Panama back in 1997) "Telecommunications" company, Cable & Wireless (yeah, the company from England, who is running the joint in Telecommunications here). Remember when dialup started getting so darn cheap because EVERYONE started using broadband? Well, in Panama's case, "public" ISPs started cropping up that offered "free" "public" dialup Internet; a good thing for everyone, considering that there are call-centers and contact-centers here that pay you wages like $2.50-per-hour BEFORE-TAXES (social-security, income-tax, "education"-tax to help fund Panama's "public" schools; I'll tell you more about the public schools in a bit), and people are like "wow! you work in a call-center?! that's AWESOME!!! $2.50 an hour? YOU'RE SO LUCKY!!!" yes I know. Panama's people are pathetic... Anyways, Cable & Wireless started whining that EVERYONE started using these "public" "free" (because they're, supposedly anyway, "public") ISPs, and they got together and decided "hey, since we're also the LANDLINE-PHONE company of Panama, why don't we [also] just, as the PHONE-company in Panama and not the INTERNET-company, let's just put software that detects who gets online and on what WAY they get online, and let's charge them a PER-MINUTE fee for getting online on dialup, when they use ANY OTHER DIALUP ISP except our own! AND, to make it even better, let's charge them THAT "per-minute"fee-when-they-use-any-other-dialup-ISP-except-our-own EVEN WHEN they have a "UNLIMITED"-type dialup-ISP and THE PHONE-LINE THEY ARE USING (AND PAYING US MONTHLY FOR) is a phone-line with UNLIMITED-LOCAL-MINUTES. and, you know what else? while we're at it, let's do this anyway: even though the judge-in-that-court-of-law-we-went-to-when-we-went-to-court-under-lawsuit-and-the-complaints filed-against-us-for-us-whining-about-the-public-ISPs ordered us (and the ruling decision was) not to "change our landline-telephone" plans in order to make it more beneficial for us, let's do this anyway. I like breaking the law. People in this darn country are too lazy to do anything about it anyway..." (Yes, this is EXACTLY what happened in Panama; no, I'm not kidding nor lying to you. I have no reason to lie). >>personal note to everyone: and by the way, isn't the before-mentioned thing ILLEGAL?? isn't it ILLEGAL for a telecommunications company, Internet-Service-Provider, basically, ANYONE, to do something like what i just mentioned above??? anyways, with all this stuff in mind, someone should roll up their sleeves and send an email to Bill Gates telling him the issues at hand and telling him to KILL VISTA, RE-NEW AND RESTART WINDOWS XP, AND, start shipping WINDOWS-XP-IN-ENGLISH SOFTWARE IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED, EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTRIES CLAIM "English is not our primary language" and/or "we wouldn't sell that much English operating systems here. It's not cost-effective". my dad and i both studied marketing, so i know what i'm talking about when i say this, BUT THE PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY INSANE IF THEY THINK "it's not cost effective" TO SEND ENGLISH SOFTWARE DOWN HERE. EVERY SINGLE DAY, I SEE AND HEAR PEOPLE WHINING ABOUT THE SAME THING: "no ENGLISH software, no ENGLISH software". and why wouldn't they whine? if you have English-language Windows XP, you can change the language to virtually any language anywhere in the world. if you have SPANISH Windows-XP, YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT. NOT TO MENTION, IT'S A HECK OF ALOT MORE CONFUSING TO NAVIGATE, THAN EVEN WINDOWS-XP WAS WHEN WINDOWS-XP-IN-ENGLISH FIRST CAME OUT!!!!!!!!!!! (shocker huh?).
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by ruengdet May 7, 2008 6:00 AM PDT
It is a business. Many programmer coding spy/virus can force you to pay money for them. If you don't they still attack you until you give up. It is a game (business game). So bored. I don't want to buy computer for anti virus/spyware software. I buy computer for my work/game that made me happy. DAMN! Got hell.
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by emperordarius May 7, 2008 9:35 PM PDT
I use a pirated version too and have no problem. Actually I have the blue edition, a unique edition designed for office designer (not for sale) and without activation. 100%clean.
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by emperordarius May 7, 2008 9:40 PM PDT
Pirated don't mean spyware. Half of the progs in my pc are pirated ones. And my computer is clean, since I have an army of anti spywares, anti rootkits and the best antivirus installed. You just have to find the warez in the right places.
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by ScottZhou May 8, 2008 2:39 AM PDT
Everything have reason to be exist. Why Win is so popular? Because it don't need you to type command line to open Office. You just only move you mouse and to click by finger. Linux only good for Server. It's even hard to move mouse and click for most people who have computer. What make me laugh is I have seen few people use double click to open IE or Outlook in Quick Launch tool bar. And they're wondering why 2 same programs start at same time.
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by dan356 May 8, 2008 6:34 PM PDT
Who should of just used openoffice, its like just as good as microsoft office it not better, its totally free.
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by brian1951 May 8, 2008 10:01 PM PDT
While I agree with some of your points, I find your arrogance a little off putting. In life and on the computer, everyone makes mistakes. That's no reason to call them stupid. Computer users are a diverse lot. Everybody can't be expected to have your level of computing knowledge. This is true especially if their focus is something else like being an excellent writer, an artist, musician, or other professional. That's why IT professionals, help desks and magazines like PC Magazine exist. For these people the PC is a tool. They neither have the time, nor the inclination to develop IT skills. They shouldn't have to develop these skills.
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