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August 15, 2007 11:47 AM PDT

LimeWire going legit?

(Credit: LimeWire)

LimeWire is best known as the latest in a long chain of software that makes it easy to find and download music for free, replacing Napster, Grokster, eDonkey, Kazaa, and all the other applications and networks that shut down or cracked down on the sharing of copyrighted material.

Lime Wire LLP, the company that makes the LimeWire software application, has also been sued by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), but has so far refused to cave, saying that it only manufactures the software and has no control over how users choose to employ it. Moreover, it filed a countersuit in September 2006 on antitrust grounds, calling the RIAA an illegal cartel that conspires to destroy any distribution channel that the recording industry doesn't control.

A couple of days ago, the company announced that it would begin to offer approved downloads for sale from directly within the LimeWire application. Unsurprisingly given their ongoing legal dispute with the RIAA, Lime Wire's distribution partners, IRIS and Nettwerk, represent small independent labels and artists rather than the majors. The files will be MP3s, and unprotected by DRM, meaning users won't ever face the problem that former Google Video downloaders now face. (DRM-protected files + canceled service = the content you paid for can no longer be played.)

So does this mean that Lime Wire is eventually going to follow Napster's path of trying to negotiate and build an industry-approved service? I would guess not--we all know how well that worked out for Napster. (The new Napster is merely the name, which Roxio bought for $5 million; Roxio changed its name to Napster when it sold off its other software busineses.) In fact, in a recent interview, anonymous Lime Wire staffers told Slyck News that the company is improving its existing Lime Wire application, adding a technology that improves the ability to search for files on Gnutella (the P2P network on which LimeWire operates) and is adding support for the BitTorrent protocol, which supports swapping of much larger files (like video). For the time being, the business model will remain the same: offer a free version of the LimeWire application and hope to upsell consumers to a version with more features.

Still, this could be the beginning of an exit strategy in case the courts force Lime Wire to stop distributing its software in its current form.

Matt Rosoff is an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, where he covers Microsoft's consumer products and corporate news. He's written about the technology industry since 1995, and reviewed the first Rio MP3 player for CNET.com in 1998. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network. Disclosure.
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The beginning of the end for LimeWire
by merlot_1 August 15, 2007 5:57 PM PDT
It happened to iMesh, it is worthless now, and it will happen to LimeWire. The only thing you will soon be able to download is viruses...everything else will be copyrited and will redirect you to a website where you will have to purchase the product you want. The days of free music, videos, and software are comming to an end. Sigh, I really miss the eDonkey 2000, Grokester, Napster, and the other pioneers of p2p file sharing.
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I don't think we should worry
by sheldonm92 August 15, 2007 6:31 PM PDT
I don't think we should worry because limewire sucked anyway. It is just the most known software not the best. It doesn't even connect to some of the p2p servers. Plus there are hundreds of programs just like it and more and more are coming out. Plus you can always use torrent.
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RE: Finding the Truth...
by SwampFox1 August 16, 2007 1:25 AM PDT
This is a post from a aged dude who walked the path that all artists must walk, i.e., finding the truth of the question who really benefits from this talk of "legitiment" music and all the "leftist, commie, terrorist, evil-folk" who just love music, for musics' sake. Nothing more.

Both posts here are legitimate views by many artists. They and they alone should have the "legitiment" final-say on the song written or performed by them. The music industry argues that the people who write and/or preform in ANY recording should enjoy the "free market." This is really the question, my cool friends: how much money should the recording companies make if they finance the artist(s) until such time as the/they repay said financing; that answer is simple, until hell freezes-over. Further, they don't even have to tell ANY artist just how much the said companies are making. Who, then you ask, is responsible for this? Those who make the most money from the activities --- Artists can be damned.

Today we still ask who is responsible for this crazy-world, the same; ironically, the very same who pay 17% federal tax than you and I who pay 33% of our gross-income. One-tenth of one%: fewer than twelve people. They receive 50-percent of all disposable income...in the world...every damned day. Now, do the math...

Any questions???

Viva le Musica, viva le musician...
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There are better ways
by Burner79 August 16, 2007 7:16 AM PDT
As with everyone I used to download music a few years ago. Limewire became my fav program after WinMX shutdown. Then all the stupid RIAA crackdowns on college students lead me to say forget it and find a better way. All you have to do is hook up XM radio to ur pc and record ur fav station then edit the file to music clips. Its that simple and just as good if not better. No worries about RIAA bustin down your door. Not hard and takes no longer than searching limewire for legit copies.
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There are better ways
by Burner79 August 16, 2007 7:19 AM PDT
As with everyone I used to download music a few years ago. Limewire became my fav program after WinMX shutdown. Then all the stupid RIAA crackdowns on college students lead me to say forget it and find a better way. All you have to do is hook up XM radio to ur pc and record ur fav station then edit the file to music clips. Its that simple and just as good if not better. No worries about RIAA bustin down your door. Not hard and takes no longer than searching limewire for legit copies.

I buy CD's but not as much as I did before the RIAA started their crap. I bought many more CD's back when I could download the songs without worries for a preview of the record. Now that would just be giving in to them...
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no big deal...there are others!
by rrtopaz August 16, 2007 11:47 AM PDT
i was a huge user of limewire in the past, but in recent times it has become "an apple full of worms": lots of bogus files, viruses, results not associated with my queries...a shell of its' former self.
i tried others and i am very happy with my new toy, the ares galaxy: it's all clean...for now, until that times comes down the road to try someone new.
if limewire becomes "legit", then so be it; technology is constantly changing and if people are smart and look around, they will see other p2p programs out there that are even better...so goodbye, limewire!
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why yall hatin!?
by -n1ck- August 18, 2007 1:17 PM PDT
man limewire is awesome.. well it was up until the point where it was deleted.. im not too sure if it does or not but my friend who works on computers told me is causes viruses.. so it was deleted.. but if that thing didnt cause viruses and i was sure of it i'd still be using it over any other download site!! LIMEWIRE RULES!!!
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people are crazy
by Xugiua August 18, 2007 2:40 PM PDT
Limewire is, and was, awsome. I hope it doesn't follow the road of Napster and the others. And people saying it's just the new p2p people are using now are crazy. I've been using it for years. While you people used Kazaa, Grokster, WinMX and all the others. They didn't just pop up because the others got shut down, they've been around since shortly after Napster got into legal troubles. People may have started using it now more, ya. But it's not just another app. It's the best. I hope they don't get shut down, but if they do, thanks for the years of great service Limewire. Good luck with the damn RIAA.
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p2p is here to stay. Recording industry is not.
by piook August 18, 2007 5:49 PM PDT
Even if LimeWire is forced to go legit, it will not impact the p2p market enough to matter. As it is there is still a host of other p2p clients out there. Including Frostwire. An open source version off shoot of Limewire, that was developed by former developers of limewire who were upset at limewire moving away from free p2p filesharing. And if Frostwire goes down then another will show up in its place. The thing is if the software is opensource and there is no actual company that makes it, who can the RIAA sue?

The RIAA needs to realize that people are no longer subject to there whims and price gouging. This will happen when more bands realize that they no longer need record labels to distribute their music, or when a new label comes out that gives away music of artists on their label, and then sell ads on their site, and further makes money from promotions and the sale of extra content. Let us say if you download the Album of band X at their site and make a $10 donation to the band you get a free shirt, hat, or maybe even concert tickets.
This will happen eventually, and if the dominate record labels of old along with the few bands that just do not get the new market of p2p and free downloadable music they will be left behind.
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Check this out
by krishvanth August 19, 2007 9:31 AM PDT
At Winamp's site, I noticed a poll which I've copied below, with the options -

"Suppose Winamp integrated a legit P2P service with tons of cool features that made it cake to acquire and play unlimited new tracks. What would that be worth to you?\

o $14.95/month
o $9.95/month
o $4.95/month
o The pirate in me refuses to pay for a P2P service"

A bit of a coincidence aint it..?! :)
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Why make LimeWire legit?
by cap27 August 19, 2007 12:17 PM PDT
P2P is like lending someone a CD and they copy it to their hard drive.Why make something legit when we've been doing it long before LimeWire and others? It just makes no sense since people have been lending tapes and CD's to friends for who knows how long.
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Makes no sence; even if it does pass (and it wont)
by jpmorin15 August 19, 2007 2:18 PM PDT
Even if it does pass, theres so many other ways to get music for free.
And its pretty much the same thing as just lending a CD to a friend and leting them Burn it or copy it. So why stop?
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Virus en el programa LimeWire
by Josè Omar August 19, 2007 4:20 PM PDT
Este programa si esta bien para descargar cosas pero el gran problema que tiene es que esrta infectado de virus, como el ares, kazaa y otros mas así que si tienes un buen virus que detecte bien pues es mejor y te recomiendo el emule en este no esta infectado mucho de virus así que si quieres utilizar LimeWire toma tus precauciones con los virus mas vale primero estar prevenido que luego arepentirte de descargar ese programa.
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Esta infectado de virus
by Josè Omar August 19, 2007 4:28 PM PDT
El LimeWire es un peligro, que despues que descargar algo lo detecta cualquier antivirus, que te dice que tal archivo o tal musica esta infectado de virus así que hay que tener cuidado con los programas que descargas mas de Kazza, LimeWire te recomiendo que uses mejor el emule 100% te lo recomiendo el LimeWire segun dice que es bueno pero cuando hay un viru en tu computadora es por que lo descargastes LimeWire no te confies por lo que yo dijo si no que te precaucion con los virus.
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There are always other P2P programmes...
by andyinteractive August 19, 2007 6:28 PM PDT
To be totally blunt and honest...Limewire files are riddled with spyware and viruses on certain unknown downloads. (as i have encountered many times) Going legit may not be a bad thing. Limewire MAY be one of the most popular programmes...but one of the worst threats at the moment to anyone who uses it. (apologies for the negative response) but i am 100% correct in saying this.

Limewire is a great programme for downloading rare music of all types but lately a music file download turns out to be a virus.

The owners of Limewire do not seem to be doing anything to combat this problem so i think that going legitimate may solve this problem.

I personally prefer 'Ares' 'Soulseek' and 'Shareza' of which are virus and spyware free.
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There is better out there!
by andyinteractive August 19, 2007 6:29 PM PDT
To be totally blunt and honest...Limewire files are riddled with spyware and viruses on certain unknown downloads. (as i have encountered many times) Going legit may not be a bad thing. Limewire MAY be one of the most popular programmes...but one of the worst threats at the moment to anyone who uses it. (apologies for the negative response) but i am 100% correct in saying this.
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Limewire going legit- i dont think so
by nick4495 August 19, 2007 8:26 PM PDT
i may not know as much as some people in such fields, but in my personal opinion if limewire has done it this long i dont see why now the recording companies are fighting back. So to me i think that should keep doing it how they have been and the record companies should leave them alone. this probably wont be too helpful if at all but just giving some of my input
thanks
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Wow I Wish Everything in the World Was Free
by miskeljp August 19, 2007 9:17 PM PDT
Isn't illegal downloading the best? Who cares if it's illegal. Laws don't apply to
me anyway. They're dumb. If I could steal food for free I'd do that too. I would
steal everything if I could and the world would be a better place. I should get to
decide how much music costs, not the record companies. They only make the
music. I listen to it. That makes me more important.

I'm just mad that when I'm downloading music illegally I get viruses. That's not
fair!
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I Wish I Could Steal Everything in the World
by miskeljp August 19, 2007 9:18 PM PDT
Isn't illegal downloading the best? Who cares if it's illegal. Laws don't apply to
me anyway. They're dumb. If I could steal food for free I'd do that too. I would
steal everything if I could and the world would be a better place. I should get to
decide how much music costs, not the record companies. They only make the
music. I listen to it. That makes me more important.

I'm just mad that when I'm downloading music illegally I get viruses. That's not
fair!
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programa con virus
by Josè Omar August 20, 2007 9:01 AM PDT
Este programa esta infectado de virus cuidado no te confies por mucho por las descargad de musica, programas, etc... este programa esta infectado de virus igual que el kazza, el mejor es Emule ya si utilizas un detector de antivirus perfecto pero si no cuidado con el LimeWire. Mas que nada piensa primero antes de que contagias a tu computadora de virus.
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